we've had innovation in the united states for years. think in my lifetime you had polaroid which started, had a success, and died. it happens all the time. if we don't have innovation, we won't have anything. apple is just one. there is a loft fanfare about it. look in the medical products area. there are thousands of inventions coming on constantly, new medicines, things like that. it's good for the economy. all of this is good for the economy. it's not just apple. god love them, let them be successful. i want everybody to be successful. >> cheryl: john, last word? >> wayne is right. numbers don't work on this. $700 billion because of one product, apple does $149 billion total right now. to tracy's point, helicopter bin, it helps if we have cyclical unemployment. we have structural unemployment. so anything like apple that comes out, the key is if you're an entrepreneur, don't copy. create. that's what apple does. >> cheryl: guys, great discussion. thank you, sally, for joining us, good to see you. >> always a pleasure. >> cheryl: comi